Key verses...


  • Revelation 17:10, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."
  • Revelation 17:11, "And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

At the beginning of Revelation 17 we see the angel invited John to "...Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:" (Revelation 17:1) Basic reality here is, the judgment is not to occur "before" John's day as some assume. It must occur "after" John's day. This vision is definitely depicting a time in the future. Revelation 17 must be understood as beginning in the "time of the judgment" which in fact began at the end of Daniel's 2300 year, or the year 1844ad. (See more info on that here) And the finalization of the judgment is done 1000 years after all Christians ascend to heaven. And so the assumption that this prophecy was fulfilled before John received it cannot possibly be true. The time frame simply doesn't fit.

 By the way, this is also the same time frame of Daniel chapter 7 judgment scene...


  • Daniel 7:10, "... the judgment was set, and the books were opened."

 ...Revelation 10 and the little book...

  • Revelation 10:10, "And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter."

...the preaching of the first angels message...

  • Revelation 14:6-7, "...for the hour of his judgment is come:..."



When the children of God were trying to decipher the prophecies they believed a wonderful event was soon to occur. The return of Christ was "sweet as honey" in their mouths as they roclaimed it. But later realized they were in error when Jesus didn't return on October 22, 1844 and so that reality made their "belly bitter." They thought the 2300 year prophecy of Daniel was to end on October 22, 1844 with the second coming of Christ. They got the date correct for the ending of the 2300 year prophecy, but the event at the end of that prophecy they simply got wrong. He was not returning to earth that day as was obvious on October 23. He was actually stepping into the Most Holy Place to begin the work of the investigative judgment on that day. Which by the way is still happening right now and will not stop until the 7 last plagues begin.

Isn't that awesome that the prophecy even predicts the obedient people of God making a mistake in prophetic understanding as well as proclamation? All of them believed Christ was coming back October 22, 1844 (sweet as honey) but when October 23 arrived it was indeed bitter in their belly!

Revelation 17:8  The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

This verse speaks of the beast that "was and is not" as an "eighth" king that is "of the seven" and will be seen as one that "goeth into perdition." It also says "they that dwell on the earth shall wonder" after this beast just as Revelation 13:3 says. Realizing that the remainder of the statement made in Revelation 17:8 where it identifies the beast as "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:..." It is obvious that it is speaking of the same beast of the end times; because later in the exact same verse it declares that this is also the same beast, "...that was, and is not, and yet is."

So the beast in verse 17 that is described as "the one that was, and is not... and will goeth into perdition" is the very same beast of verse 8 where it speaks of it as both the beast that  "was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition" as well as "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." Same beast, just two different descriptions of it's true characteristics.

Click here for a "pop up" that will biblically and historically explain the beast that "was, is not, yet is" so as to better understand the Truth in this prophecy. After reading the facts, you will no doubt come to the understanding that both history and prophecy prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Roman Catholic church is in fact the beast that "was... is not... yet is." After reading the "pop up" you will see the following facts come to light...

  • The Beast that was: Is the Roman church that began in 538ad and continued until Napoleon sent in General Berthier in 1798ad
  • ...and is not: From 1798ad until the signing of the Lateran treaty in 1929 the Roman Church/state power was non-existent. Therefore the Roman church "is not" a ruling power at this time.
  • ...yet is: From 1929 to present day the Roman Church has been a church & state. The "yet is" aspect of the prophecy states that though this beast was mortally wounded, it will return and regain its former power. That day is upon us now. (Click here for more info on this prophetic event proving that wound is now healed)

So, who are these five kings that are fallen, as well as who is the one that is, and one that is not yet come, of Revelation 17:10 that leads us to discover the eight king?



The five kings that have fallen are...

  1. Babylon
  2. Persia
  3. Greece
  4. Pagan Rome
  5. Papal Rome (After 1798AD it became beast that "is not.")



  • Revelation 17:10, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."

All five of the "kings" in the above table have already fallen at this point in the prophetic statement of Revelation 17:10. The king that "is," is in fact the Roman Catholic church with the wound. Judging by the chronological order of events listed in the prophecy, we see that the time of this vision is for the "hour of judgment", or the "end times", beginning in the king 5's wounded period of time of 1798 through 1929.

But 1844 is a very important time to understand here as well. It is when the investigative judgment began. The reason I say this is important is because the angel is telling John in the vision that he is about to see the "judgment" of the great whore in verse one of Revelation 17, which by the way is the chapter we are now digging into. This in fact is in tune with Daniel 7 as well as Revelation 10. And what happened to the Pope in 1798 shows judgment started on this church.

The king that "is not yet come" will eventually be the Roman Catholic church with the wound completely healed. (that day has come)  If you watch the movements of the Vatican in today's world, one will see just how accurate this prophecy is. All the pieces are quickly being put in place so as to assure the Vatican desire of a one world government come to be. (Click here for the present pope's activity with the NWO)

Soon this eight king will have all its persecuting powers return unto it. Many true Christians will once again find themselves being killed for their faith in Christ that not only opposes the Catholic faith, it exposes it with child like ease as being quite evil. In fact, prophecy stated we would know who the "man of sin" was in the last days. This greatly angers the dragon as Revelation 12:17 declares is unavoidable. 

This identifies ALL seven kings. But what of the eighth? The prophecy gives us graphic clues to this that are extremely obvious. It plainly says, "...the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven" This beast that "was, is not and yet is," is the Roman Catholic church, is it not? And the Roman Catholic church is also "of the seven" as history has already proven. It was of the original five in its infancy when it killed the Christians for 1260 years, and it is also "of the seven" when it "is not" killing Christians thanks to Napoleon sending in General Berthier to remove the Pope from power.

If you notice, the beast isn't depicted as an eighth "head" at all. The prophecy just states plainly that the beast that "was, is not, and yet is" is the eighth king. Still, an "eighth" king does in fact suggest a "different" or "new" king right? Yes it does! And after you see the Roman Catholic church standing up with all heads in play, the entire beast will be seen. In other words, the eighth beast is actually the entire beast standing there with the seven heads. Each head is a "kingdom" unto itself, yes; but the eighth beast is all seven kingdoms working together as one beast after it's healed. That wicked conglomeration wherein it uses all the wickedness of the previous 7 kings actually makes him king #8. This is the one world government we are all about to see.



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